Last Articles

2005 escalade navigation disc 8000k vs 10000k hid tpms valve stems costco acura car radio code cost to get tires installed honda civic cd player disc error vsa honda crv 2006 6000k hid color car wont start makes rapid clicking noise huper optik vs llumar vs 3m try to start car and it just clicks average cost to change transmission fluid honda accord crankshaft pulley tool civic lca bushing replacement acura tl headlight bulb interstate megatron ii battery reviews replace fiberglass shower with tile 6000k hid headlights
Community
Search
Notices

Cost to rip out shower, replace with tile?

Reply

Thread Tools
Old 12-29-2009, 07:53 PM
#1
Administrator Alumnus
Thread Starter

Scrib's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Northwest IN
Posts: 26,320
Thanked 112 Times in 78 Posts
Cost to rip out shower, replace with tile?

We have a standard fiberglass shower in the master bathroom. Fiberglass on three sides with a sliding shower door. Nothing special. Have wanted for some time to have the thing ripped out and a replaced with tile from floor to ceiling, new door and perhaps a nifty shower head, etc.

Curious if anyone has had done this? Plumbing is something stay away from, so I would hire this out. Any ideas on cost? I would assume pulling out the shower would be easy? Then it's just a matter of a little plumbing work and doing the tile work? Couple grand including labor?

Scrib is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2009, 08:04 PM
#2
is learning to moonwalk i

moeronn's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SoCal
Posts: 15,522
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Labor is definitely going to be the biggest expense. For some reason, installing tile on a wall costs ~5x more than putting it on the floor - somewhere around $15/sqft and up.

Demo should be pretty quick and inexpensive. Plumbing would be a couple hundred if it was straight forward. Tile prices vary, but should be $200-$400 (assuming 80 qft). Glass might be somewhat pricey if it's custom size or design. Fixtures could be anywhere from $150 and up to whatever you're willing to spend.

You're probably pretty close with around $2k and up for this.

Be sure to post before and after pics.
moeronn is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2009, 08:10 PM
#3
Administrator Alumnus
Thread Starter

Scrib's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Northwest IN
Posts: 26,320
Thanked 112 Times in 78 Posts
Wonder if we'd be better off going with a fiberglass base, versus tile? Or is it stupid of me to even think a titled floor?
Scrib is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2009, 08:13 PM
#4
Unofficial Goat
iTrader: (1)

The Dougler's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Toronto
Age: 33
Posts: 15,733
Thanked 107 Times in 87 Posts
Tile the whole thing. from an ROI stand point if you ever do sell your house the extra $500 you spend now will return $2K. Bathrooms and kitchens sell houses so this is no place to cheap out.
The Dougler is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2009, 09:01 PM
#5
Registered Member

doopstr's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Jersey
Age: 46
Posts: 22,584
Thanked 863 Times in 540 Posts
A couple years ago I had a problem with my shower stall. It was leaking into the kitchen. I had to have the entire shower replaced, the drain plumbing had to be replaced, and some new ceiling drywall put in the kitchen. What I put in was a standard fiberglass shower with new sliding doors. I also had the entire subfloor in the bathroom replaced because that is what failed. The old shower floor was concrete!

I spent a little over $3300 to have the whole thing fixed and I did the repainting.

It took 2 guys over 3 days to rip out the old stuff and get the new stuff in. I am very glad I didn't even think of attempting it myself.

So assuming no gotchas are found you will probably spend $3-4k for tile.
doopstr is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-29-2009, 09:06 PM
#6
Bent = #1

hornyleprechaun's Avatar

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Marietta, GA
Age: 34
Posts: 13,479
Thanked 25 Times in 19 Posts
Tile the shower floor.. it will look a lot better and I don't think it'd cost that much more. Wait for evilone to respond (he is a tile guy).
hornyleprechaun is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 09:03 AM
#7
Nom Nom Nom Nom

SwervinCL's Avatar

Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Universal City
Age: 39
Posts: 11,801
Thanked 76 Times in 50 Posts
It really depends largely on what tile you use. But do keep in mind, you will want to get a tile that has a texture to it.

I am actually in the process of doing that same thing. I honestly can't see me spending too much money on it, but I plan on doing it all myself.

The one thing that you will have to remember is that if you do tile in the shower you will need a greenboard or masonboard behind the tile. You cannot just use typical gyp. board. So estimate that into the cost your remodel as well.
SwervinCL is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 11:44 AM
#8
is learning to moonwalk i

moeronn's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SoCal
Posts: 15,522
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
that you should tile the whole thing. The incremental difference of tiling the floor would be pretty minimal and will make a huge difference in look and ROI.

A couple of things to think about while planning this out:
1. Do you like the current layout or do you want to move the faucet or install additional heads?
2. Where do you put your soap, shampoo, etc.? Do you want to build-in a (recessed) shelf?

Just think of how you have been using the shower and if there is anything you've wanted to change other than just the looks. These little things can make a big difference.
moeronn is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 11:52 AM
#9
Registered Member

JasperKeith's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Park City, UT
Age: 38
Posts: 17
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Having the floor and walls the same is a plus, as mentioned you want something that does some texture on the floor so as to prevent slips. The real key is getting the shower pan in place first, to prevent any leaks.
JasperKeith is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 01:41 PM
#10
Administrator Alumnus
Thread Starter

Scrib's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Northwest IN
Posts: 26,320
Thanked 112 Times in 78 Posts
$5K for all tile. Dayum.
Scrib is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 01:50 PM
#11
One on the right for me

subinf's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area, CA
Age: 35
Posts: 27,549
Thanked 160 Times in 109 Posts
Easily 5-6k
subinf is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 01:51 PM
#12
MR1
05/5AT/Navi/ABP/Quartz

MR1's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Central CA
Age: 68
Posts: 3,348
Thanked 52 Times in 49 Posts
Suggest you not focus on questionable ROI. Do what you like and can justify financially. If the bath is upstairs or house is on a raised foundation, do you want to chance doing it yourself?

The $5000 quote does not surprise me though I'm sure you could get it done for less. The shower pan might deduct $1000 all by itself.
MR1 is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 02:12 PM
#13
Administrator Alumnus
Thread Starter

Scrib's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Northwest IN
Posts: 26,320
Thanked 112 Times in 78 Posts
Yea, they're going to give me some formal quote but $5K is for all tile. They have done other options with things like a marble pan and it'd be less. Probably about $4K-$4.5K.

I guess when you think about it, there's quite a bit of work that will go into this.
Scrib is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 04:32 PM
#14
Administrator Alumnus
Thread Starter

Scrib's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Northwest IN
Posts: 26,320
Thanked 112 Times in 78 Posts
What are the heads called that shoot water out from the sides versus above? Anyone have these?

Scrib is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 04:41 PM
#15
is learning to moonwalk i

moeronn's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SoCal
Posts: 15,522
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Body sprays?
moeronn is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 04:51 PM
#16
Administrator Alumnus
Thread Starter

Scrib's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Northwest IN
Posts: 26,320
Thanked 112 Times in 78 Posts


Yea, that's it.

Wonder if a couple of these are doable? Water heater is plenty big. My question would be water pressure.
Scrib is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 05:16 PM
#17
Chapter Leader
(Northeast Florida)
iTrader: (1)

gatrhumpy's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2004
Age: 38
Posts: 31,942
Thanked 969 Times in 642 Posts
If I had that in my house my house my wife would never leave the shower!
gatrhumpy is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 05:24 PM
#18
is learning to moonwalk i

moeronn's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SoCal
Posts: 15,522
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Scrib View Post


Yea, that's it.

Wonder if a couple of these are doable? Water heater is plenty big. My question would be water pressure.
Water pressure should be fine if all heads have restrictors on them (i.e. 2.5 GPM or less)

Originally Posted by gatrhumpy View Post
If I had that in my house my house my wife would never leave the shower!
Me either. Really wish we had those, as I like hot showers and the rain head we have in the new house doesn't quite cut it. Would be fine with the body sprays, but not even close on it's own.
moeronn is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 05:47 PM
#19
One on the right for me

subinf's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area, CA
Age: 35
Posts: 27,549
Thanked 160 Times in 109 Posts
Pressure should be fine. When you have the plumber out there might want to have him check the pipes to make sure they are clean. My parents replaced their pipes a few years ago and the water flowed much better.

Do you have a tankless heater or just a big water heater?
subinf is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 05:54 PM
#20
Administrator Alumnus
Thread Starter

Scrib's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Northwest IN
Posts: 26,320
Thanked 112 Times in 78 Posts
Big 50 gallon tank.
Scrib is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 06:12 PM
#21
it's me, Alan Rickman.

timmahh's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: noitacol
Age: 34
Posts: 3,313
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Scrib... Get the kohler DTV - that's what i'm going to do.. eventually.. Our MB has a seperate jet tub and shower.. all fiberglass. Would like to rip it out, make the shower as big as possible in the same space, and get a free standing tub...

Here's what I want:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xHd7H...eature=related

They have some $$$ stuff like the light therapy, music system, etc.. but overall the system can be done for "fairly cheap" considering it's kohler..

The DTV valve runs like $600 - $800 on eBay; then you need the controller for another $300 - 400.. then you buy the shower heads/jets/arms you want. Pretty neat.. [The DTV has a hot/cold inlet and 6 outlets. So you can have up to 6 watering devices in the shower]

Are you going to DIY any of it ?

Last edited by timmahh; 12-30-2009 at 06:16 PM.
timmahh is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 06:27 PM
#22
Administrator Alumnus
Thread Starter

Scrib's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Northwest IN
Posts: 26,320
Thanked 112 Times in 78 Posts
mama

That's a lot of $$$$$$.
Scrib is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 06:28 PM
#23
it's me, Alan Rickman.

timmahh's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: noitacol
Age: 34
Posts: 3,313
Thanks: 0
Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts
Originally Posted by Scrib View Post
mama

That's a lot of $$$$$$.
Spend a weekend watching DIY network, then save yourself the cost of paying someone to do it!
timmahh is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 12-30-2009, 06:40 PM
#24
Administrator Alumnus
Thread Starter

Scrib's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Northwest IN
Posts: 26,320
Thanked 112 Times in 78 Posts
Originally Posted by timmahh View Post
Spend a weekend watching DIY network, then save yourself the cost of paying someone to do it!
It's not the labor. The materials are outrageous.
Scrib is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2010, 01:11 PM
#25
WAS HONDATAFIED IN

NightHawk CL9's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Chicago
Age: 32
Posts: 874
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Hey Scrib, how big is your bathroom? Also dependent on how close to Indiana/Illinois you are I can recommend a good contractor that is very well priced for good quality that is nowhere near 15$/sf for installation, PM me if your interested.
NightHawk CL9 is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2010, 02:12 PM
#26
One on the right for me

subinf's Avatar

Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Bay Area, CA
Age: 35
Posts: 27,549
Thanked 160 Times in 109 Posts
Have you considered going to a factor and getting seconds? I know heath sells tile for really cheap and the stuff looks really nice.
subinf is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2010, 02:27 PM
#27
Senior Moderator

LuvMyTSX's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: NY
Age: 39
Posts: 14,668
Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
Originally Posted by timmahh View Post
Scrib... Get the kohler DTV - that's what i'm going to do.. eventually.. Our MB has a seperate jet tub and shower.. all fiberglass. Would like to rip it out, make the shower as big as possible in the same space, and get a free standing tub...

Here's what I want:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=xHd7H...eature=related

They have some $$$ stuff like the light therapy, music system, etc.. but overall the system can be done for "fairly cheap" considering it's kohler..

The DTV valve runs like $600 - $800 on eBay; then you need the controller for another $300 - 400.. then you buy the shower heads/jets/arms you want. Pretty neat.. [The DTV has a hot/cold inlet and 6 outlets. So you can have up to 6 watering devices in the shower]

Are you going to DIY any of it ?
My boyfriend wants to put that Kohler stuff in when we redo the master bath in the new house. I said yeah, when we win the lottery, maybe. LOL. It does look awesome though, and I'm sure it's quite a lovely bathing experience.
LuvMyTSX is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2010, 03:25 PM
#28
Administrator Alumnus
Thread Starter

Scrib's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Northwest IN
Posts: 26,320
Thanked 112 Times in 78 Posts
Originally Posted by NightHawk CL9 View Post
Hey Scrib, how big is your bathroom? Also dependent on how close to Indiana/Illinois you are I can recommend a good contractor that is very well priced for good quality that is nowhere near 15$/sf for installation, PM me if your interested.
PM sent.

Not sure how you're getting $15 per sq/ft out of this and now it translates into how big the master bath is?

It's a standard shower size, 48"x36", I think...
Scrib is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2010, 03:31 PM
#29
WAS HONDATAFIED IN

NightHawk CL9's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Chicago
Age: 32
Posts: 874
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I was taking the number from moeronn's post #2 that wall tile is more expensive then floor tile, which I don't understand myself.
NightHawk CL9 is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2010, 03:40 PM
#30
Administrator Alumnus
Thread Starter

Scrib's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Northwest IN
Posts: 26,320
Thanked 112 Times in 78 Posts
ah
Scrib is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2010, 03:45 PM
#31
is learning to moonwalk i

moeronn's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SoCal
Posts: 15,522
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by NightHawk CL9 View Post
I was taking the number from moeronn's post #2 that wall tile is more expensive then floor tile, which I don't understand myself.
Tile itself isn't necessarily more or less expensive, but for some reason the labor for installation of wall tile is much more expensive than for installing floor tile.

Originally Posted by moeronn View Post
Labor is definitely going to be the biggest expense. For some reason, installing tile on a wall costs ~5x more than putting it on the floor - somewhere around $15/sqft and up.
moeronn is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-06-2010, 04:55 PM
#32
WAS HONDATAFIED IN

NightHawk CL9's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Chicago
Age: 32
Posts: 874
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by moeronn View Post
Tile itself isn't necessarily more or less expensive, but for some reason the labor for installation of wall tile is much more expensive than for installing floor tile.
Yes I understood that, I guess I should have worded it differently, I believe there are contractors that can install (labor) tiles for less then $15/sf on the wall and I don't understand the price difference in labor between floor vs wall tiles.
NightHawk CL9 is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2010, 02:20 PM
#33
Administrator Alumnus
Thread Starter

Scrib's Avatar

Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Northwest IN
Posts: 26,320
Thanked 112 Times in 78 Posts
What kind of tile? Ceramic, porcelain, marble, granite, travertine?
Scrib is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-09-2010, 02:29 PM
#34
is learning to moonwalk i

moeronn's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SoCal
Posts: 15,522
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Originally Posted by Scrib View Post
What kind of tile? Ceramic, porcelain, marble, granite, travertine?
Most of this is up to personal taste and how much care you are willing to put into it.

One note - porcelain is ceramic, but a higher quality (consistent through the product rather than just a finish). Definitely go full porcelain over regular ceramic. The other natural stones can be beautiful, but require more care and special/non-standard cleaners. Hopefully someone with more experience with natural stones can chime in.
moeronn is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2010, 03:33 PM
#35
Registered Member

Johnny_b's Avatar

Join Date: May 2009
Location: Boston
Age: 32
Posts: 424
Thanks: 0
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
+1 on the extra care for marble and granite. Real nice looking, especially the tumbled marble. You have to make sure you clean with less costic cleaners. Like that scrubbing bubbles stuff, vs bleach.

If it were me, I would pay the premium for the nice stuff and try to save by doing the labor myself. Although there are some expensive faux rock tiles out that are still a pretty penny.

Plumbing actually isnt bad, unless you need new rough ins. Do a little reading and you should save yourself a lot of dough, or be able to put it into high end fixtures.
Johnny_b is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2010, 02:10 PM
#36
Registered Member

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: West Chester, PA
Age: 54
Posts: 294
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Johnny_b View Post
If it were me, I would pay the premium for the nice stuff and try to save by doing the labor myself.
+1
I just did a DIY tile shower with pebbles on the floor. Materials (commercial grade tile, stone, waterproofing and plumbing hardware was $2K+. JohnBridge.com forums rock.

Even if you pay a plumber for the real plumbing work, you'll save thousands.
johnnysquire is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2010, 02:14 PM
#37
Registered Member

Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: West Chester, PA
Age: 54
Posts: 294
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by NightHawk CL9 View Post
Yes I understood that, I guess I should have worded it differently, I believe there are contractors that can install (labor) tiles for less then $15/sf on the wall and I don't understand the price difference in labor between floor vs wall tiles.
I think the issue is the difference between a tile floor versus a pan floor - not that sticking tile on the bottom is terribly different that sticking tile on the side.

A tile floor requires a pre-slope and waterproofing materials - lots more steps than just screwing in concrete board and troweling on thinset. A pan just drops in, and makes up for lots of sins on the walls, too.
johnnysquire is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2010, 03:43 PM
#38
is learning to moonwalk i

moeronn's Avatar

Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: SoCal
Posts: 15,522
Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts
Tiling floors is easy compared to walls (not saying that walls are that much harder), but with floors you have gravity working in your favor. On walls it is working against you, so it takes more time and care.
moeronn is offline
Reply With Quote
Old 01-13-2010, 05:19 PM
#39
Senior Moderator
iTrader: (1)

NSXNEXT's Avatar

Join Date: May 2000
Location: where the weather suits my clothes
Posts: 27,011
Thanked 719 Times in 447 Posts
Originally Posted by moeronn View Post
Tiling floors is easy compared to walls (not saying that walls are that much harder), but with floors you have gravity working in your favor. On walls it is working against you, so it takes more time and care.
I disagree. Taken from another site.

Instructions for tiling a shower floor

Things You'll Need:
finish trowel
thin-set or adhesive mortar
fiberglass mesh tape
shower pan membrane liner
staple gun with staples (nails can be substituted)
tiles
grout

Step 1: First, you must slope the floor using mortar and a finish trowel. This will allow the water to drain, minimizing your chances with leaks. Apply a coat of mortar to the shower floor, making it slope from the walls toward the drain. The slope will direct the water to the drain. Make sure the edges of the shower are at least 3" higher than the center to ensure proper drainage.

Step 2: If ceramic tile is desired on the floor of the shower as well, then a shower pan membrane liner should be installed prior to the installation of the WonderBoard or Durock cement board.

Step 3: Next, install a shower pan membrane liner. This is supple plastic, and allows water that gets through the tiles and mortar to still find its way down the drain. Lay the liner at the base of the shower area, folding and forming it to the shape of the shower floor. Use the staple gun (or nails) to attach it to the shower wall frame. Cut a slit where you will want the drain assembly.

Step 4: Install a ceramic tile backerboard.

Step 5: Cover any joints around the edges with fiberglass mesh tape. It is recommended that you cover every little hole that water could even conceivably get through. You don't want to do this twice, right?

Step 6: Install a final coat of mortar on top of the liner to protect it and give you a solid surface for laying the ceramic floor tile.

Step 7: Once the mortar has set, apply a coating of latex thin-set or adhesive mortar so that the tiles have something to stick to.

Step 8: It's time to tile. Start at the drain and work outward to the edges. Use full floor pieces as much as possible.

Step 9: After the mortar has set, grout the tiles and clean away any excess with a damp cloth.

Step 10: After you have successfully installed the tile and grout, readjust the shower drain assembly so that the drain sits flush with the surface of your tile floor.

Step 11: Allow at least 48 hours for the grout to dry before using your newly tiled shower. Enjoy!
NSXNEXT is offline
Reply With Quote
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
marcelft
Second Generation TL (1999-2003)
30
07-10-2018 06:17 PM
BlkTxAcuraTypeS
Member Cars for Sale
3
10-18-2015 08:05 PM
BKSleeper
3G TL Problems & Fixes
21
10-07-2015 10:20 AM
PortlandRL
Car Talk
2
09-14-2015 12:01 PM
Yumcha
Ramblings
4
09-01-2015 12:22 PM



Quick Reply: Cost to rip out shower, replace with tile?


Contact Us Terms of Service



We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.